The winner is HuldricFranconian Huldric's submission
The runner up is Kokorozash! Kokorozash's submission
The winner is HuldricFranconian Huldric's submission
The runner up is Kokorozash! Kokorozash's submission
The Byzantine general Narses deployed his troops carefully, dismounting the vast majority and allowing for mutual support and the most effective use of missile fire. The infantry were deployed in the center with the cavalry on both flanks and largely hidden by surrounding woods. Butilin’s Germans also dismounted and formed up for one great rush against the enemy center, designed to rupture it and hurl back the Byzantine in flight. Initially this seemed to have worked, as the center of the Byzantine infantry buckled under the ferocity of the German charge, led by their nobles in the ‘boar’s head’ wedge formation. Then the Byzantines’ allied Herul troops – held in reserve – came into the line just in time to restore the situation. Meanwhile, Narses, having drawn the Germans into his trap, closed the door on any retreat by maneuvering his cavalry into outflanking positions. Butilin’s men were surrounded and massacred.
in the case of someone knowing the specific battle... would describing what happened make one the winner or do you suppose, that better solutions may be found?
are things like "wait until the enemy starves" a viable tactic or does a battle have to occur in near future?
as it is from the PoV of the winner, usually the winners army was truly a lot bigger and the losers army was a lot smaller... should this be taken into account?
any information about surrounding landscape? like does this happen in a desert, forest or mountain steppe? any obvious battlefields near to choose from?
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Looks interesting.
Though I'd have to say that since CoE armies are likely to be battalion-sized at most the numbers are fairly large for what our actual leaders will have to deal with.
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Just a fun little event by Barleyman. I could be wrong, but I don't think he meant it to be a realistic translation to CoE.
Posted By chipla at 3:24 PM - Tue Apr 23 2019
Looks interesting.
Though I'd have to say that since CoE armies are likely to be battalion-sized at most the numbers are fairly large for what our actual leaders will have to deal with.
No it isn't meant to translate to CoE. It's just interesting and if it provokes some discussion of CoE that wouldn't be bad, but it's just for community building.
Posted By Gromschlog at 3:29 PM - Tue Apr 23 2019
in the case of someone knowing the specific battle...
I also immediately recognized which battle this was, lol. :)
Posted By Gromschlog at 2:29 PM - Tue Apr 23 2019
in the case of someone knowing the specific battle... would describing what happened make one the winner or do you suppose, that better solutions may be found?
are things like "wait until the enemy starves" a viable tactic or does a battle have to occur in near future?
as it is from the PoV of the winner, usually the winners army was truly a lot bigger and the losers army was a lot smaller... should this be taken into account?
any information about surrounding landscape? like does this happen in a desert, forest or mountain steppe? any obvious battlefields near to choose from?
If you've already identified the battle you may take any approach you wish. In that case it depends if someone else comes up with something better.
Wait until the enemy starves is a viable strategy, however you must be sure to prevent the enemy from escaping as well.
The armies involved in each scenario will be described with as much detail as is historically available, including numbers. It is also not necessarily the case that the winner's army is always bigger. In the case of this scenario the PoV army is slightly smaller.
Due to the fact that the enemy is seeking battle it is assumed the the PoV army can choose the battle's location. Extreme conditions such as sand dunes, swamps, or other such terrain should be assumed to not be present. However, rivers, hills, open fields, and other generic terrain should be assumed to be available. For this scenario the PoV army has it's pick. For other scenarios the description of terrain will be handled differently as those scenarios demand.
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Is it not important for us to know the approximate breakdown within our army of cavalry, archers, infantry, etc.? I feel like the tactics would be different if we've got 15,000 cavalry or if we have only 5,000 cavalry, or depending on how many archers we have to work with.
^From someone nowhere near familiar enough with this stuff to possibly recognize almost any battle that you vaguely describe.
ETA: I see at the bottom of your post you say "...a certain amount of leeway will be given as regards interpretation of exact army compositions. Please be reasonable and use your best judgment." So is that it, we're just supposed to guess what the makeup likely is?
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Posted By taijhin at 8:47 PM - Tue Apr 23 2019
Is it not important for us to know the approximate breakdown within our army of cavalry, archers, infantry, etc.? I feel like the tactics would be different if we've got 15,000 cavalry or if we have only 5,000 cavalry, or depending on how many archers we have to work with.
^From someone nowhere near familiar enough with this stuff to possibly recognize almost any battle that you vaguely describe.
ETA: I see at the bottom of your post you say "...a certain amount of leeway will be given as regards interpretation of exact army compositions. Please be reasonable and use your best judgment." So is that it, we're just supposed to guess what the makeup likely is?
A typical civilized army (i.e. not steppe nomads) wouldn't have more than 20-25% cavalry. I would use that as a reasonable estimation. (There are exceptions).
Round 1 is meant to be the easiest and put a lot of things in the hands of participants, so yes, to a certain extent you get to decide. Later rounds will have more specific details; give more constraints; and generally be harder.
How the opponent succeeded in forcing an engagement when he has mostly infantry only, while my combine force should outrun them, given my familiarity with terrain, and speed advantage of light troops?
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Posted By Roarer at 11:16 PM - Tue Apr 23 2019
How are people suppose to submit their ideas?
There is an e-mail address at the end of the post. The line is in bold.