COMMUNITY - FORUMS - AGING & DYING
Birth? Conception? Where does a heir come from?
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Hello CoE

I've been reading through various discussions here and around the forum, and I've been struck by a particular question: Where will future heirs and children come from? I understand NPC interactions create population in general, but what for players?

I'm not looking to make CoE a softcore porno or anything, but I'm looking for a classier approach than Sims and their silly pixelated 'woohoo' shirtless wrestling. Will we need a consenting NPC or player to create new life? Will that require a spark of life? What if I die and do not have a heir in line, does the continuation of life-traits stop?

Will two player adults go to some character-creation menu and decide on how to balance their traits for their heir? Can they just openly engage this menu anywhere, or will there have to be a bed nearby? If people decide to consummate in public, would public indecency (however that would be handled, not even saying it should be a thing.) be a loftier crime for lude acts? Will the female be fine and dandy and just birth the child in X amount of time with no difference to stats? Fatigue, bloating, mood swings (random stat debuff/buff), actual pregnancy stages? Will gender be pre-set, agreed upon, and randomized on a limited roll like character creator? If you have an NPC spouse do you gain total/extra control, or less because it's simpler?

Quoting from the game guide section on families: "Inheritance: Families are also the method for inheritance and choosing your next character. When having a child you could choose to reserve them as your official Heir, which keeps them out of the world until your original character reaches permadeath. Alternatively you could choose a non-family member as your heir, but that will be less typical. When selected as your Heir that character will inherit your land, title, wealth, and possessions. With your next Spark of Life, you can then choose to play as your heir with the same family support system as you continue to build out your family dynasty."

Curious to hear CoE's thoughts. Eventually we all have to die, so it's important to birth too, isn't it?


1/14/2017 1:15:50 AM #1
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There is no sexual activity in CoE. If you make a childcontract with someone of the other gender, a child magically appears. You cannot do this every hour, there is a cooldown of (not sure but I think) 1 year, so 1 rl week and the cooldown does not depend on your gender. Pregnancy is not a thing either. The childcontract says, whos child it is and the person that gets the rights can chose those bars between the stats of the parents. A heir doesnt have to be directly related, you can decide whos your heir quite freely. Still, the easiest way will be getting some children with different age and making that one your heir that you intend to play in your next life. Taking heirs out of the world to prevent them being killed is outdated.


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1/14/2017 1:16:49 AM #2
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You will need a consenting NPC or player for a new life. It will not require a spark of life to create the child but will require a spark of life when you take over the kids life.

If you do not have a kid/heir you ... Oh you answered that in your own post :)

I don't believe any details on that situation have been put forth but that is a pretty funny thought. I doubt you will be seeing any consummation in public or private. Doing that will give the game an adult rating tag and make it hard to sell/advertise.


1/14/2017 5:24:23 AM #3
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You'll have to forgive the mention of it, but kids come from somewhere. There's a mechanic for a 'consenting other', and going off of Grom's post one parent gets the rights to a heir? With a 1 week cooldown. In a game that gives you hypothermia for metal armor in cold biomes, the lack of pregnancy (1 week cooldown, so 1 week of just being overcapacity the whole time) seems a little out of place.

Skip the whole animation and 'bow-chika-bow-wow' background music, lemme just talk on that menu for a second: Do you and your other just wait for your 168 hour timer to run out, and wherever you are just whack that "BABY MAKER" button? Take that little bundle of shame back home, let the nanny take care of it and go back to slaying dragons right after?

Like I said, not looking for a porno, but in a realistic game with families and lineage, heir creation is going to be pretty important considering the millions of NPC and PCs we'll be seeing. Both parents should have NPC code to each heir created, and I think they should both be able to modify at the same time, or just elect out of creation entirely.


1/14/2017 5:45:25 AM #4
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As I understand it- Its a child contract-

I __ enter into contact to produce an heir for ___.

This goes both ways and only one person would maintain actual rights to the child code. I assume most couples will produce multiple children so it becomes a question of who gets the first born... In the system it really should be no different then "I __ enter into contract to produce 20 pies for __ for 20 gold".


1/14/2017 7:17:04 AM #5
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That's kinda funny, but a good idea all things considered. Can you imagine playing a female character and having to be pregnant for the better part of a week? No thanks, I'll take magical baby contracts.

Besides, there's always ERP if you want to get intimate with your partner.


1/14/2017 8:08:15 AM #6
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What's a week in 2018 to the average female gamer/fem-bot? What if in that week, every event that happens would have a crazy small chance to buff and debuff stats, and certain questlines would open up, etc. I'm pulling these references straight from another game, just not sure if there's any rules about linking to others in general topic


1/14/2017 8:14:45 AM #7
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Just make sure your surrogate gets enough folic acid. It'll all work out.

6/4/2017 5:29:35 AM #8
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Enter in a contract with a partner, and Poof the heir just appears. or maybe the stork drops it off.


6/4/2017 9:57:20 AM #9
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Hmmm... just wondering that would it be possible to split one's property to 2 heirs in the will. That would provide a way to start playing with a buddy as equal siblings after when moving to next life.

Also, I'm a bit worried about the concept of having to lock one child for myself. Are the rest of the kids free meat for any new player?


6/4/2017 11:51:13 AM #10
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Lots of good information here. I thought I'd throw in a few tidbits that haven't been mentioned. When creating a child contract, the primary caregiver must supply a room and some starting items for the child. I've heard through the grapevine, though not from a confirmed source, that the child will show up as an eight year old after the 1 week cooldown.

As far as heirs are concerned, my understanding is that you can designate a primary heir and a secondary heir who would inherit if the primary heir was too young or killed near the time of your character's death.

You will be able to lock the codes for your children, as well as your parents and spouse if they are NPC's. You will receive codes for all of those, as well as any NPC siblings (though you can't lock siblings), that you can give out to friends so they can play a character in your family. This prevents important members of your family from being taken over by random PC's. Of course, you can choose to leave some unlocked if you want more PC's in the family and don't mind some luck of the draw.


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6/7/2017 2:45:15 AM #11
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I'm actually really looking forward to the possibility of random people taking over kiddos. You can always disown them if they turn out to be real jerks, but I've had a lot of fun mentoring new players in different games over the years, and people usually turn out to be pretty cool when you've taken some time to go out of your way to make sure they have a neat experience and a good start to the game.

Another thing which I don't think many people have thought of, this is just one more subtle way to encourage new people to play in your town/region/etc. They pick a family because it gets these neat bonuses and then they discover hey, here's these people that instantly accepted me into their group on day 1! Wait, my mom's the sheriff and my dad's a baron?! Cool! and they end up continuing to play, contributing to your local economy and maybe going off to help you stab people in the name of the duke.


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6/15/2017 8:21:32 PM #12
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Posted By Gromschlog at 6:15 PM - Fri Jan 13 2017

There is no sexual activity in CoE. If you make a child contract with someone of the other gender, a child magically appears. You cannot do this every hour, there is a cooldown of (not sure but I think) 1 year, so 1 rl week and the cooldown does not depend on your gender. Pregnancy is not a thing either. << So, no stork delivering babies? Sorry, I couldn't resist.


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6/23/2017 11:12:42 AM #13
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Posted By Gromschlog at 7:15 PM - Fri Jan 13 2017

There is no sexual activity in CoE. If you make a childcontract with someone of the other gender, a child magically appears. You cannot do this every hour, there is a cooldown of (not sure but I think) 1 year, so 1 rl week and the cooldown does not depend on your gender. Pregnancy is not a thing either. The childcontract says, whos child it is and the person that gets the rights can chose those bars between the stats of the parents. A heir doesnt have to be directly related, you can decide whos your heir quite freely. Still, the easiest way will be getting some children with different age and making that one your heir that you intend to play in your next life. Taking heirs out of the world to prevent them being killed is outdated.

BOOOOO!!!! I would've settled for some softcore WOOHOO...something!

There had better be storks, then.


6/23/2017 11:14:17 AM #14
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Posted By Orisoll at 01:17 AM - Sat Jan 14 2017

That's kinda funny, but a good idea all things considered. Can you imagine playing a female character and having to be pregnant for the better part of a week? No thanks, I'll take magical baby contracts.

Besides, there's always ERP if you want to get intimate with your partner.

Idk, I think that's the one part of RPing a female that never gets done and it's easily the biggest part. I would welcome it...as a man who only plays female characters.


6/23/2017 11:40:55 AM #15
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Posted By FateWeaver at 7:16 PM - Fri Jan 13 2017

You will need a consenting NPC or player for a new life. It will not require a spark of life to create the child but will require a spark of life when you take over the kids life.

If you do not have a kid/heir you ... Oh you answered that in your own post :)

I don't believe any details on that situation have been put forth but that is a pretty funny thought. I doubt you will be seeing any consummation in public or private. Doing that will give the game an adult rating tag and make it hard to sell/advertise.

Ew, no. I'm only having sex with real virtual people.