Would be nice to verify but it would make sense if you do not use the rare materials, you don't get their special property of the rare goods. You can use normal cotton to make the rare pillow, but it would just be a normal pillow. At least, that make sense in my mind.

i imagine, that without the leatherfish for the bag for example, it would not be waterproof, and extensive water exposure would do to it, what that does to normal leather IRL, degrade it.

As a follow up I'm curious if listed items is everything we need for recipe or they might require some extra common materials that are not listed.

Also how much can we expect to get from Gumputty and Trekker's Tonic? I know everything eventually wears down and breaks, but do we get 1 use of tonic or putty per ingredients acquired? or we can expect to get 5-10 or more uses?

zero has been said about how much of the consumables are produced per run.

and some of the recipes say in them that they require other common materials, only one that seems like it could possibly not require more common ingredients is the rods, and even then, id bet there is something.

It was stated on Discord that each recipe would require 1 of each rare listed to make the item.

Serpentius🌩Last Tuesday at 6:16 PM @ArokVaar (Parok) confirmed: 1 ingredient per request, so if a recipe calls for 3 ingredients, it is one of each.

What I’d like to know is if the rockfruit seeds can be cultivated... 😀

Also curious about the ingredients and recipes, most of my questions already stated here

Mainly wondering if we can get some more through the EP store or if this is all there is until the "distant lands" where those are supposedly available are released and reachable.

Any extra useful information would be very appreciated, even if the KSV is quickly passing us by.

R3dh3rr1ng I believe snipehunter said The rock fruit seed can be planted, however your ability to understand how and where will determine if it actually grows.

I thought that the difference between a recipe using common and rare ingredients was the rare status of the item, which is 20x times the cost of a regular item using regular ingredients, and is of legendary (artifact) status. Not sure how the scaleing goes when it comes to how much more useful the item will be but if an ingredient is rare then it has to be at least 20x harder to get then the regular item. An example of this is the bone grass that does grow wild but is WAY more unlikely to find then regular grass at the ratio of a billion to one (from snipehunter, though this might have been an example and not a hard number) https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/33973/bonegrass

Hope this helps!

Posted By Zairick at 10:54 AM - Sat Oct 19 2019

R3dh3rr1ng I believe snipehunter said The rock fruit seed can be planted, however your ability to understand how and where will determine if it actually grows.

I thought that the difference between a recipe using common and rare ingredients was the rare status of the item, which is 20x times the cost of a regular item using regular ingredients, and is of legendary (artifact) status. Not sure how the scaleing goes when it comes to how much more useful the item will be but if an ingredient is rare then it has to be at least 20x harder to get then the regular item. An example of this is the bone grass that does grow wild but is WAY more unlikely to find then regular grass at the ratio of a billion to one (from snipehunter, though this might have been an example and not a hard number) https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/33973/bonegrass

Hope this helps!

Got a source for that snipehunter quote on the rockfruite?

Posted By Zairick at 4:54 PM - Sat Oct 19 2019

I thought that the difference between a recipe using common and rare ingredients was the rare status of the item, which is 20x times the cost of a regular item using regular ingredients, and is of legendary (artifact) status. Not sure how the scaleing goes when it comes to how much more useful the item will be but if an ingredient is rare then it has to be at least 20x harder to get then the regular item. An example of this is the bone grass that does grow wild but is WAY more unlikely to find then regular grass at the ratio of a billion to one (from snipehunter, though this might have been an example and not a hard number) https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/33973/bonegrass

Hope this helps!

Glad you see the rarity in a similar way like x20 as shown in the wiki, with a billion to one statement from Snipehunter being a slight exaggeration.

Still does not answer if the recipe itself would be seen as rare/legendary, the only word to describe it was in the KSversary news stating it is "exclusive".

Your reply made me consider that every recipe would be of common quality and in the end only the materials used would matter. So just like we cannot purchase mythical walls (made of unobtanium) there may be a limit to the quality rating of blueprints, patterns, recipes and techniques.

Posted By Sareseras at 03:01 AM - Mon Oct 21 2019

Posted By Zairick at 4:54 PM - Sat Oct 19 2019

I thought that the difference between a recipe using common and rare ingredients was the rare status of the item, which is 20x times the cost of a regular item using regular ingredients, and is of legendary (artifact) status. Not sure how the scaleing goes when it comes to how much more useful the item will be but if an ingredient is rare then it has to be at least 20x harder to get then the regular item. An example of this is the bone grass that does grow wild but is WAY more unlikely to find then regular grass at the ratio of a billion to one (from snipehunter, though this might have been an example and not a hard number) https://chroniclesofelyria.com/forum/topic/33973/bonegrass

Hope this helps!

Glad you see the rarity in a similar way like x20 as shown in the wiki, with a billion to one statement from Snipehunter being a slight exaggeration.

Still does not answer if the recipe itself would be seen as rare/legendary, the only word to describe it was in the KSversary news stating it is "exclusive".

Your reply made me consider that every recipe would be of common quality and in the end only the materials used would matter. So just like we cannot purchase mythical walls (made of unobtanium) there may be a limit to the quality rating of blueprints, patterns, recipes and techniques.

Im not sure where this "20x harder to get" idea came from but it appears to be a misinterpretation of the EP cost multiplier for rare items.

Rare items being 20x is a combination of this original EP post here that gives you the multipliers, and this one here that splits the list into quality and rarity instead of just having 1 catch all list.

Long version short, if something is rare but is on another continent it isnt 20x harder to find, it will be infinitely harder to find as we cannot reach the other continents at launch.

If bonegrass only grows in specific temperate bands, in only grasslands, and is 1 in 1 million/billion or w.e. then its not 20x more difficult to get, its as difficult to get as it is to find this specific grassland biome and then stumble upon that 1 in a million grass.

The if part is what annoys me most, as all the statements about the ingredients are so vague, that you cannot confirm if it is going to be extremely rare on the starting continent or completely unavailable.

Just a "nope, they are only from unavailable lands" would be sufficient, instead we have so much text that is just flavour with no definite answer.