In order to duel someone, you'll click on a menu item. That's not greifing when you are doing that same thing to an NPC. They will interrupt their crafting process just like anyone would need to to protect themselves if they think they are threatening.

In other words baiting is a valid strategy. People that are crafting in a disturbance free area will be within guild/workshop walls with set up permissions. People that are crafting on the edge and able to be seen crafting, those people are to the whim of those that would want to disturb them.

Is asking the craftsmen for something that is on display to buy an issue? There is a reason why people are out in the open so they can sell their wares. These people interrupted and not able to land a sale. Is that also trolling or a problem? No? Alright, so where do we draw this line.

That is the permission system that land owners and shop owners are able to develop within the game. You can craft where you aren't able to be disturbed. People that don't have a reason.

Posted By Wolfguarde at 12:25 PM - Sat Oct 13 2018

Posted By Poldano at 06:07 AM - Sat Oct 13 2018

Of course, a weaver or tailor probably would not have a potentially lethal startle reaction. I guess that's not entirely fair.

Scissors.

:P

I stand corrected. Thank you.

:D

There are several other possible ways to obviate (i.e. make irrelevant) the OP's example. For one, work areas may be considered private space, and therefore not accessible to the general public without permission. I'm not sure how carefully and precisely the distinction between public and private space will be defined, but it is possible that crafting areas will be considered private by default. Anyone entering them might be subject to trespass laws.

The scenario that the OP described might be possible, but it might also be made illegal by player law. All the more reason for strong settlement government, settlement walls, and the ability to prevent unwanted individuals from legally entering settlements. Specific serious crimes need not be required to designate a character persona non grata. Being a general nuisance could be sufficient, depending on player laws.

I find it rare that any game would have the NPC citizen react to a drawn sword or raised fist, they normally react if you attack. Guards on the otherhand might not take kindly to the sword being drawn as it's their job to be combat ready not someone crafting at a table.

Posted By Viktoriusiii at 9:05 PM - Thu Oct 11 2018

And everyone else: ITS NOT ABOUT THAT ONE EXAMPLE! THERE WILL BE HUNDRETS OF WAYS! And if you try and make a law about every minute way of griefing, you will have laws that make you unable to breathe at the end.

If it is not about that one example, don't make the topic as the "perfect example"....... isn't that common sense?

Regarding the idea of the problems of how to solve different form of grieving, there is no clear answer until the legal system is fleshed out. Though flexibility is the key in the system, and some form of grieving can't be eliminated.

The game relies on players themselves to monitor each other. Just like in real life. And even in real life has the most flexible issues, we still got spams, crimes and bullies, which if transferred to virtual world can become grieving. So, don't expect a "PERFECT" solution.